Comments on: Forrester: Facebook and Twitter Do Almost Nothing for Sales https://www.smartinsights.com/social-media-marketing/social-media-analytics/forrester-facebook-and-twitter-do-almost-nothing-for-sales/ Digital Marketing > The Marketing Strategy Blog Mon, 06 Oct 2014 11:14:56 +0000 hourly 1 By: Juan Villanueva https://www.smartinsights.com/social-media-marketing/social-media-analytics/forrester-facebook-and-twitter-do-almost-nothing-for-sales/#comment-7308 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:46:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=19166#comment-7308 In reply to Dave Chaffey.

Hi Dave,
I will have a look at the link. Thanks for answering.
Cheers,
Juan

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By: Dave Chaffey https://www.smartinsights.com/social-media-marketing/social-media-analytics/forrester-facebook-and-twitter-do-almost-nothing-for-sales/#comment-7180 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:30:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=19166#comment-7180 In reply to Juan Villanueva.

Hi Juan, thanks for your comment + question.

The Forrester research is quantitative – based on analytics, so AFAIK is the best quant data on this.
Hitwise does report on this, but the correlation is not as clear as that from analytics – see http://www.smartinsights.com/online-pr/online-pr-outreach/social-content-sharing/.
Dave

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By: Juan Villanueva https://www.smartinsights.com/social-media-marketing/social-media-analytics/forrester-facebook-and-twitter-do-almost-nothing-for-sales/#comment-7161 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:45:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=19166#comment-7161 In reply to Dave Chaffey.

Hi Dave,

Very interesting points in your article and comments, including the arguments of Andrew.

I am just wondering if you know of other research that has quantitatively measured the influence of social media posts on online transactions.

Regards,
Juan Villanueva

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By: Dave Chaffey https://www.smartinsights.com/social-media-marketing/social-media-analytics/forrester-facebook-and-twitter-do-almost-nothing-for-sales/#comment-7121 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 08:44:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=19166#comment-7121 In reply to adair2.

Nice!

But do we even know that half is working? You’re right to highlight the technical limitations – I fear we will never know which half… You can’t really do controlled testing of social media like paid media unfortunately.
Dave

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By: Dave Chaffey https://www.smartinsights.com/social-media-marketing/social-media-analytics/forrester-facebook-and-twitter-do-almost-nothing-for-sales/#comment-7122 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 08:44:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=19166#comment-7122 In reply to ukmarketinghelp.

Hello Dan, you’re right! This is why I disliked the over-simplistic implication of the BI piece that “Social media are pointless”.
They should have commented in a more balanced article, as you have:

“Most transactions aren’t instant. So “business” might not happen right there and then (or if it does it is very rare to and different depending on b2b and b2c) but it happens later on and with social disproportionately well for SME’s ;)”.
You need to develop brand awareness and preference to help convert online visitors and this benefit of social media marketing isn’t being measured here.
Dave

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By: ukmarketinghelp https://www.smartinsights.com/social-media-marketing/social-media-analytics/forrester-facebook-and-twitter-do-almost-nothing-for-sales/#comment-7110 Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:01:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=19166#comment-7110 In reply to adair2.

nice – wish i had thought of that 🙂

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By: ukmarketinghelp https://www.smartinsights.com/social-media-marketing/social-media-analytics/forrester-facebook-and-twitter-do-almost-nothing-for-sales/#comment-7109 Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:00:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=19166#comment-7109 Should this really surprise us? Isn’t Facebook and all social not really about the sales but being social with our already established customers and making them advocates for selling to others and keeping our brands near their hearts rather than instantly opening up their wallets. Money is very important – but not the point of social.

The headline is like one saying no business comes from networking events or out of drinking in bars!

Most transactions aren’t instant. So “business” might not happen right there and then (or if it does it is very rare to and different depending on b2b and b2c) but it happens later on and with social disproportionately well for SME’s 😉

Great end point. It might be the way it’s tracked after all of this…..

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By: adair2 https://www.smartinsights.com/social-media-marketing/social-media-analytics/forrester-facebook-and-twitter-do-almost-nothing-for-sales/#comment-7108 Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:31:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=19166#comment-7108 Dave,
So we could say, paraphrasing a famous “old media” quip, I know that half of my social media marketing is working, but for technical reasons, I don’t know which half.

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By: Andrew Lloyd Gordon https://www.smartinsights.com/social-media-marketing/social-media-analytics/forrester-facebook-and-twitter-do-almost-nothing-for-sales/#comment-7098 Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=19166#comment-7098 In reply to Maria Morais.

Hi Maria

Using Social Media for lifestyle and conversational reasons is perfectly valid. I do so myself all of the time.

Establishing a conversation with followers is valid for every organisation.

But if you’ve got a limited budget and finite resources, you can’t – and shouldn’t – do everything. You have to prioritise and know what works in some sort of priority order.

Which is why, if the GSI research indicates social plays little part in direct sales – although it probably plays some – is the reason we all need to know.

I’ll be interested in your thoughts when you’ve read the source material.

And thanks to you too for your time taking part in this conversation 🙂

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By: Maria Morais https://www.smartinsights.com/social-media-marketing/social-media-analytics/forrester-facebook-and-twitter-do-almost-nothing-for-sales/#comment-7097 Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:39:00 +0000 http://www.smartinsights.com/?p=19166#comment-7097 In reply to Andrew Lloyd Gordon.

It’s a fair question but I guess there’s not a lot I can add now. My point is that consumers are using social media for lifestyle and entertainment reasons before they think about buying products and there are countless studies that indicate that. But yes I understand that some organisations don’t see any advantage in establish a conversation with followers when by the end of the day they will be measured by results.
I am going to read the source when published by GSI. Thanks for this conversation and insights.
Maria

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